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Amarr Holymight
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Posted - 2007.11.28 03:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Emylissan
Originally by: SauronTheMage
I hate to say that but it could be heavy abused. Choosing a few "12 days to learn skills" in that queue and than safe the money for the subsciption, let it expire and make something else the next month, and than a month later you pay again and the chars skilled all those long time skills without that you had to pay.
Its already nice that a started skills finishs even when the paid time expired.
That way ccp may loose alot money cause some people could simply stop paying and when they return their char is ready to fly the hulk.
That's easy to fix. Once the skill is done training, have the system check to see if you are subscribed. If not, training stops. If you are, training moves to next in que.
true, thats a solution for that problem, however i hope they dont remove the skilltraining continuing after the payment expired from the game.
Hehe didn't you just contradict yourself there?
I think the single skill queue is fine ppl can have a backup one in case the server goes belly up for a day again. Also the check if you are subscribed before allowing the skill queue is a fine idea to stopthe farmers. Is this possible I don't see why not? Is it exploitable I would like to see an explanation to how it maybe.
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Amarr Holymight
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Posted - 2007.11.28 12:35:00 -
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I can see it will improve the life of farmers but if you have it so it checks whether your account is activated as was said earlier this eliminates non subscribers laying on two long skills.
How about if you train a skill it keeps training to level 5 til you change it?
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Amarr Holymight
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Posted - 2007.11.29 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Amarr Holymight on 29/11/2007 03:29:19
Originally by: Solbright altaltaltaltt
Originally by: Amarr Holymight
if you have it so it checks whether your account is activated as was said earlier this eliminates non subscribers laying on two long skills.
Lol, obviously. There is no way CCP would give away even more free training time. This is a non-issue and has nothing to do with farming.
Its not giving away more free training time ?? You still can only leave one skill training while your account is offline. As in the suggestion that was made asks why not have a skill queue that is active while you are still subscribing but can detect when you are not before it goes to the next skill. Thus only alowing the skill q for subscribers and not eliminating the old way of being able to leave one skill training.
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Amarr Holymight
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Posted - 2007.11.29 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Solbright altaltaltaltt
Originally by: Amarr Holymight
""Nobody wants it to change and a queue wouldn't change it so it's not really talked about.""
That is ridiculous statement, if nobody wants it to change why are there so many posts about it and people wondering if it is possible. Have you been sent here by CCP to disrupt the momentum of this thread with flaming rhetoric please be constructive here!!
Originally by: Solbright altaltaltaltt
Originally by: Amarr Holymight
And, yes, this method of skill completing is free training time.
How is it free training time if the queue is only available to paying subscribers as suggested? Have you not comprehended what ppl are talking about here?
There is surely a way that can please both casual paying subscriber and not have a negative effect on the gameplay and that would be to only allow a queue to occur while subscribed otherwise normal gameplay resumes win win for everyone.
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Posted - 2007.11.30 08:10:00 -
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Yes I have seen all your previous troll.. ahem I mean comments.
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Posted - 2007.11.30 08:30:00 -
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If you create an infinite or 100 skill queue a farmer will setup an account for 3-12 months give his character all his skill books and let him train away only to log on when he needs to start a new skill(farmer heaven!). A one or two (preferably one) skill, skill queue can't really help the farmers too this extent and will help the casual gamer enough to strike a balance in making the game more accessible to new players.
Reasons for a short skill queue
1. It can be used during server downtime as a back up so we don't lose any skill training through no fault of our own. This includes unexpected server crashes!!!
2. Allow for casual gamers or ppl to carry on with their everyday lives to train those hard to get 2 skills during their 9 hours of work.
3. Doesn't improve the life of a farmer enough to be hazardous to the game. (This is not our main concern anyway it's CCP who are losing out so let them deal with it).
Reasons against long queue.
1. Long absenteeism from the game shouldn't be rewarded. If you have been afk a few months you shouldn't have as much skillpoints as the person who has been playing the game and providing towards it during this time they will rightfully feel cheated.
2. Farmers would have a field day with this notion setting up umpteen characters as it would be easy and not time consuming for them to have 50+ characters training.
3. It's not needed so why implement just cause we can?
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Amarr Holymight
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Posted - 2007.11.30 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Eleana Tomelac
The only thing that people found against the skill queue is 'farmers'?
Someone earning real money by building characters will spend the necessary time and log on nights to secure his investment. ...etc
Yes it's so true. I hark back to an earlier comment probably the only one Solbright didn't quote ,in reference to farmers "This is not our main concern anyway it's CCP who are losing out so let them deal with it". Farming a character is not half as bad as isk farming anyway. It can only affect CCPs pockets not the IG economy which is our concern.
A skill queue should be available permanently for FREE! to protect against server crashes RL issues etc.
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Posted - 2007.12.01 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Remko Marr
Edited by: Remko Marr on 30/11/2007 23:28:33
Agh, how many times has this been said already? The solution is simple: have the queue deactivate when you suspend your account.
Yes it is quite frustrating I've said in a bout three of my posts and you also. Are people just not getting their heads around it ??? Skill queue system for paying subscribers account runs out no skill system. ugga bugga 
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Posted - 2007.12.04 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Amarr Holymight on 04/12/2007 20:42:15
Why is everybody so worried about farmers its like a psychosomatic illness.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 21:42:00 -
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Guys you are arguing in circles, farmers don't need skill queues they dont have lives that's why they farm. A skill queue isn't gonna change the farming situation that's up to CCP. Also why do you care just enjoy the game let other people enjoy the game if it goes bust go find another a game to play. Bring on the skill queue.
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Posted - 2007.12.07 18:36:00 -
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Saying no to something that is not useful to you is a nonsense, it can be useful to someone else.
Yes this I agree with it seems all the neersayers aren't going to be affected by skillqueue so why all the detriment. Connor didn't you read about the skill queues that only have one skill in it or like most people here just read from the original post and gambled that most people here don't have anything intelligent to say on the matter.
I came to a quandry the other day when the server was going down for 24 hours I only had one skill (from my plan) longer than a day available to me unless I decided to sidetrain for something ugh. I ended up having to partially train a 24 day skill that I won't finish/need for about three months. In this time I coulda trained for something more pertinent to my immediate needs. So these two days were slightly wasted. The last time the server crashed I lost 16 hours training cause it crashed on a friday and I couldn't reasonbably log on til the Saturday afternoon. Overall that's two and a half days off my current plan. These are my reasons for wanting merely a one skill backup plan why would you prevent me and I'm sure a lot of other people in the same boat this? Am I being childish me thinks not.
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